MMA discussion thread!

[TheNewNo.2]

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My buddy put me on to this guy, and he's a trip to watch fight. He's got the craziest ring entrances since Prince Naseem Hamed, he dances in the ring while fighting, and turns his back on his opponents, walks away and spins back with a punch or a kick. Amidst all the goofiness, he's actually a pretty damn good fighter--just check out that spinning back fist knockout. These are a couple of pretty nice fights I've found. The vid isn't the highest quality, but it's a good match against a Korean Taekwondo fighter, and the second is against Royler Gracie, yet another of the endless Gracie family.

1st clip: 9.64 MBs, 5:02
http://www.keepmyfile.com/download/d28365821519

2nd clip: 37.5 MBs, 4:21
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EUTCGVGL

[gotti911]

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=genki+sudo
lots of mixes

the most entertaining fighter yet.

[armanisuit]

interesting, i got to check it out, i always like fighters who bring something unique into the ring AND can back it up.
thanks guys

[gotti911]

Wanderlei Silva: CroCop slice his head open and his eyes were hamburger
Rich Franklin: you guys seen the nose from Silva's knees
Mark Coleman: Fedor decimating his face.
Karo Parisyan: Diego Sanchez knocked out his tooth with a knee to the chin.

I'm going to find pictures.

Anything you guys like to add

[kevdude82]

I saw a knockout once on UFC where the fighter was actually ruled unconcious while he was still standing. After the fight, his cornerman had to steer him to the backstage area. He was all over the place. lol Not sure who was in the fight, but it was hysterical. lol

[sandler]

Silva-Crocop was sick bro!! i think pride still has the best heavyweights!

[Grunder12]

I dont know. It was nice to see Tito put Shamrock out twice within a 2 month period. You got to respect those guys for finally shaking hands and ending their rivalry.

[dictator]

I saw a knockout once on UFC where the fighter was actually ruled unconcious while he was still standing. After the fight, his cornerman had to steer him to the backstage area. He was all over the place. lol Not sure who was in the fight, but it was hysterical. lol

was it coleman??
i remember him getting struck by a high kick & he was out!! like watching a tree go down! timberrrrrr!

[Welsh Maximus]

Best beatdown I`ve seen was probably Rich Franklins 5 round pummeling of David Loiseau
http://img1.imagetitan.com/img1/1/34/david496.jpg


Favourite Beatdown though was easily Anderson Silva`s total sub minute demolition of Chris "I`ll show him pain...not!" Leben lol


Have yet to see the Cro-Cop Vs Silva scrap...anyone got a link for it?

[kevdude82]

I'm not sure if it was Coleman. It looked like a Brazilian guy or maybe a Puerto Rican. He had an olive tan.

[gotti911]

Best beatdown I`ve seen was probably Rich Franklins 5 round pummeling of David Loiseau
http://img1.imagetitan.com/img1/1/34/david496.jpg



Have yet to see the Cro-Cop Vs Silva scrap...anyone got a link for it?

I think Sandler has the link somewhere in the Sports section

[gotti911]

The year is almost coming to the end so cast your votes

[ronmexico]

just by his sheer dominance....Fedor:066:

[armanisuit]

i would have to go with Fedor first and then Gomi next.

[Welsh Maximus]

I think Sandler has the link somewhere in the Sports section

Thanks for the heads up Gotti,will have a delve and see if I can locate :067:

[sandler]

Mirko Filipovic vs Wanderlei Silva (.wmv)
http://www.sexuploader.com/?d=GPELZ6DX
http://www.sendspace.com/file/6ca62r
http://rapidshare.de/files/32653170/...e__06_-Tok.wmv

dunno if they still work tho :)

[sandler]

hmmmm, this is tough. either fedor or crocop for me.

[dictator]

I saw a knockout once on UFC where the fighter was actually ruled unconcious while he was still standing. After the fight, his cornerman had to steer him to the backstage area. He was all over the place. lol Not sure who was in the fight, but it was hysterical. lol



olive skin? lol. definitely not coleman with his orange tanning bed tan.

[dictator]

Mirko Filipovic vs Wanderlei Silva (.wmv)
http://www.sexuploader.com/?d=GPELZ6DX
http://www.sendspace.com/file/6ca62r
http://rapidshare.de/files/32653170/...e__06_-Tok.wmv

dunno if they still work tho :)


tried the rapidshare file. its gone.
i'll see if anyone else uploaded it

[Welsh Maximus]

tried the rapidshare file. its gone.
i'll see if anyone else uploaded it
First two are still live and kickin...thanks Sandler :067:

[gotti911]

CroCop: looked sharp against Wanderlei Silva who he KO'd and knock out Josh Barnett with body shot, won the OWGP on his birthday to fight Fedor for the title.

Anderson Silva: the most impressive fighter of the year, from unrank to possibly the number 1 rank fighter in his weight class in 2 fights.

George St. Pierre: beat the top 2 fighters in his weight class to be rank number 1.

Mike Swick: won his last 3 fights and is the next middle weightchampionship contender

Yoshihiro Akiyama: beat Mevlin Manhoef to become K-1 gp champion.

Paulo Filho: was suppose to fight in the middle weight gp Pride title.

Denis Kang: won 6 fights this year, came out this year. Like Filho is becoming a household name.

[gotti911]

hey no votes

[BigDaddy_GFS]

I gave GSP his props. Giving Hughes a righteous stomping earned him a pass.
I was so impressed, that I overlooked his froggish lineage.

[gotti911]

I gave GSP his props. Giving Hughes a righteous stomping earned him a pass.
I was so impressed, that I overlooked his froggish lineage.


what was matt hughs thinking standing up with GSP. Hughes didn't do sh!t, tried to take down once.

[sandler]

as much as i was impressed with the gsp win over matt, i still chose mirco crocop. the way he dismantled wand was just crazy!

[Welsh Maximus]

In light of recent domination,Georgy gets my vote :077:

Cro-Cop is probably my favourite HW in all organisations and I hope he does the biz against Fedor.

Dennis Kang has really impressed in all showings this year and I mark him down as a Champion in waiting for `07.

[Welsh Maximus]

Yoshihiro Akiyama: beat Mevlin Manhoef to become K-1 gp champion.


Hey,has anyone got this fight please? Manhoef is a beast and I`d like to see the dude who tamed him.

[jreng1]

i'll go with GSP as well. Love his beating of Hughes.

[gotti911]

I was wacthing the Franklin vs Silva fight and Silva threw 23 knees that were direct hits to Franklin with 2 minutes. It's either GSP, Silva, or Crocop as fighter of the year

[Dark Genesis]

Being croatian myself and as cro cop is my fav but cmon guys there only one person who deserves this and its Fedor. They guy is the best fighter in the world hands down.

[kevdude82]

I gave my vote for Georges St. Pierre. Out of all the other contenders on the list, he probably had the biggest win of the year, defeating Matt Hughes. When you beat someone as dominant as Hughes, you've got to be on top of your game.

[gotti911]

Being croatian myself and as cro cop is my fav but cmon guys there only one person who deserves this and its Fedor. They guy is the best fighter in the world hands down.

nope, fighter of the year for 2006, not decade. Fedor only fought Mark Coleman this year which he made his face look like hamburger.

[Dark Genesis]

In that case cro cop for winning the GP and then a close second for GSP for taking his first title.

[BigDaddy_GFS]

There are fans of Mixed-Martial Arts here. But how many of you knew of the origins of Ultimate Fighting and Pancrase?


Boxing in ancient Greece had fewer rules than boxing today. There were no rounds and boxers fought until one of them was knocked out, or admitted he had been beaten. There was no rule that prevented a boxer from hitting an opponent when he was down. There was no weight class in either the men's or boy's divisions and the contestants were chosen randomly. The boxers did not wear gloves but wrapped their hands and wrists with leather straps called himantes. Their fingers were left free.Boxing matches had no time limit and ended only when one boxer held up his hand or fell to the ground.


It's also important to note that body shots were taboo, and considered vulgar, not chivalrous. Face and head shots only, sometimes by striking the opponent's hands, driving them back into his face.

Pankration: It was a combination of boxing and wrestling. The only things outlawed were biting and gouging out an opponent's eyes. Athletes didn't wear boxing gloves, but they could hold an opponent with one hand and hit him with another, unlike in boxing. The hands were not wrapped in the leather himantes.Two versions of the pankration were offered. In the first, whoever hit the ground first lost; in the second, whoever lost consciousness first lost. Soldiers were usually very good at this sport, and it was not unusual for pankration athletes to be seriously injured or even die.
Kicking in any part of the body was allowed. There were separate divisions for men and boys but like in boxing there was no weight division and the opponents were chosen at random.


Pankration was resurrected in the 20th century as Pancrase, or Ultimate Fighting. More rules, and safety measures were added.

[sandler]

in addition to that, pankration fighters were adored by the masses. some of them even ended up getting goverment positions. its like your modern day baller.

some say that the greeks used a lot of pankration when they invaded india. after, they taught the locals pankration thats why martial arts historians have found several proofs that india had their own version of pankration way before anyone else, except in greece of course.

pankration was revived again and some of its most notable practitioners are matt hume and josh barnett.

[zoltek]

Pankration? The word sounds like it's some sort of painful medical procedure. With that said, for some reason I can't change the channel when modern "pankration" is on TV. It's too addicting. I heard/read somewhere that it's more popular than boxing these days.

[sandler]

i think MMA is slowly taking the popularity of boxing. the fights are definetely more exciting. the UFC has done a really good job in promoting the sport.

[zoltek]

The fights are definitely more exciting...though I could do a little less with the on-the-mat grappling when the fighters are too damn tired to do anything else and all we see is the two of them fighting for position.

It seems like boxing would be more dangerous. With boxing you've got gloves so you can repeatedly hit to the hit throughout a match...getting in dozens of strong hits in. With MMA, you don't get as much a repetition of solid hit, because one or two is usually enough to win a match.

[sandler]

also, in MMA, you dont necessarily get hit on the head and body as much as in boxing because fights can be over with submissions. maurice smith said it himself that MMA is much safer than kick boxing and boxing, and he used to do the former before entering MMA.

[BigDaddy_GFS]

Agreed. MMA fighters don't get punch-drunk like boxers. Aside from cauliflower ears (like those insane hunks of raw flesh dangling from Couture and Hughes' heads), they don't seem to get the chronic health issues of boxers, or even football players.

Sure, guys get injured, and sure, age can aggravate things -- knees, back, shoulder, etc...But the whole 'hazardous' aspect that gets played in the media seems grossly out of line.

[BigDaddy_GFS]

Saw this girl on SHO, and thought she'd be worth a search.
Gina Carano

Record: 12 wins 2 losses 1 draw 1 ko

24 years old

(12 wins-1 draw-1 loss in MUAY THAI)

1 win - 0 loss in MMA

Fight weight: 135-140


She;s cute, tight, funny, and Italian. WTF more could you ask for?:D
Though she's a bad-ass gladiatrix, she shouldn't be bringing a face like that into the ring.



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[BigDaddy_GFS]

Elite Xtreme Combat is a new mixed martial arts venue that is coming to us through the joint efforts of Pro Elite Incorporated and Showtime Networks. That's right, mixed martial arts has now made its way to the Showtime Network.

And if you're thinking it's just one event- think again. It appears that Elite XC will put on several events over the next few years in conjunction with Showtime. In fact, in an interview with BoxingTalk.com, President of Elite XC Live Events Division, Gary Shaw, indicated that, "we'll probably put on six events in 2007, eight in 2008, and ten to twelve in 2009."

Word of advice: think up your argument before opening your mouth to the wife about getting Showtime. You may only get one chance.



Adding to the previously-announced main event pitting Frank Shamrock (Pictures) and Renzo Gracie (Pictures), Showtime and Elite XC revealed eight bouts for their Feb. 10 mixed martial arts debut at the DeSoto Civic Center in Southaven, Miss.

Televised contests include Shamrock-Gracie; Antonio Silva (Pictures) taking to the cage versus Wesley Correira (Pictures) in a super heavyweight clash; quality middleweights David Loiseau (Pictures) and Joey Villasenor (Pictures) meeting for the first time; lightweights KJ Noons and Charles Bennett (Pictures) coming together for a potentially quick fight; and Gina Carano (Pictures) making her Showtime debut against a yet-to-be determined opponent.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=6485

Hadn't seen Frank Shamrock in quite a while. Looking forward to this.
I posted some Gina Carano pics earlier, for your viewing pleasure.

[Welsh Maximus]

That Antonio JUNIOR' Silva is one Ugly fuckin dude http://img1.imagetitan.com/img1/1/46/uglyrockin_08.gif

Hope someone can`t post some vids of this as and when cos Frank Shamrock is one of my all time favs.

[BigDaddy_GFS]

I haven't seen Frankie in a long time. I'm really looking forward to this.

[BigDaddy_GFS]

Found a few more... :008:
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[BigDaddy_GFS]

Some good info here on ancient Pankration.

http://www.historical-pankration.com/index.html

[BigDaddy_GFS]

I'm not sure when there were taken, but they're fairly recent. My favorite warrior princess is gettin' famous!:008:


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[Welsh Maximus]

I like her face,she shouldn`t be fuckin that up with fisticuffs,but a livin`s gotta be made :005:

[TheNewNo.2]

I have no idea if this was planned, or if the guy just sort of wound up in a perfect position by accident, but this shit has to be seen to be believed.

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[Heywood_Jablome]

wow! the dude getting rocked gets the win on a submission like that.

i can honestly say i have never seen that move pulled off before.

that was amazing!

i gotta see the whole match now

[Creamy Goodness]

good improv

[Creamy Goodness]

good improv

[Jgman]

Thats insane

[bitjunk]

what event is this from?

[TheNewNo.2]

what event is this from?

It was from BFC 4 (Bellator Fighting Championships), which was held this past weekend. I just came across the clip over on Sherdog.com.

[baka37]

HOLY crap!! That's awesome!!! Reminds me of the Lesnar vs Mir fight but just better lol

[dylin]

Whoa, ive never seen that before

[sf88808]

No way was that planned, he just made the best of a bad situation. Does he get to name that move?

[zedzed9]

nice.

also, I can't stop staring at the pic in your sig.

[JoeBoosRum]

Did you guys see the one where the guy had his arm in an arm bar, and rather than tap out, he let the other guy break his arm?

[snowboarderz4life]

wow, gotta practice that one, too bad the only person that would let me try it is my 4 year son.