Italy Win

[Mr.HotStuff]

France Lost :)

[durcam]

Contest of wills . France's main link snapped like a mofo..........

[Mr.HotStuff]

not a big fan of penalties - but they were well taken

if Henry and Zidane had been on -I reckon it would have gone more than 5 penalties each

but then again - if my aunt had balls she could be my uncle :)

[D'Artagnan]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH.

Ok off to World Cup party, be back in 2 days... Maybe.

[RAZORMAID]

Zidane left the game a complete asshole. He's an embarassment. What a disgrace. Congratulations Italy.

[qwertyell]

Victory for negative, defensive football - yay... :(

Zidane let his team down, but even with ten men France had more attacking intent than the ultra-cautious Italians.

Frankly, this World Cup has been utter shit since the quarter-finals with all the supposed 'superior' teams left in. At least in the early stages teams played to win, rather than the avoid-defeat-at-all-costs mentality adopted in recent games.

Well done Italy - but if everyone played like you, football would played in empty stadiums.

[nuckles]

Zidane has always had a temper problem... totally selfish, i don't care wut the other guy said... what a stupid way to end a great career, all that he has done in the past will now be forgotten, very sad... congrats Italy fans!

[squonk]

What happened to Zidane!?!?!?!? Congrats to Italy that played in the same level in the tournament.

[RAZORMAID]

What happened to Zidane!?!?!?!? Congrats to Italy that played in the same level in the tournament.


He was red carded and sent off.

[jalen]

FUCK Materazzi....
Zidane FOREVER

[Hard Drive]

FUCK Materazzi....
Zidane FOREVER
I agree...

Deciding the winner by penalty shootout really sux... but then again, the match would've gone forever

[jdrock24]

What the f%$&^ was Zidane thinking?!! That's right! He wasn't! Some legend...

Anyway, congrats to Italy. Hmmm. I wonder how many Euros this win cost them...

[fartman23]

Supposedly the winning federation got the equivalent of $20 mil, and the losing got like $17 mil. Still not too bad.

--FM23

[hungarianstud]

Penalties is the worst way to finish a game. Especially a game that means this much.
They should have just let them play till they couldn't play anymore.
Someone is bound to score.

Go Italy!

[Humpie]

Penalties is the worst way to finish a game. Especially a game that means this much.

I agree with this, they must introduce a replay match the next day. :043:

To give Zidane the red card was quite rightly. It doesn't matter how great
name you have but you have to behave yourself on the field especially a
great footballer as Zidane. :105:

<img src="http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5556/zidane8uq.gif" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" />

[zebulon]

In France we all woke up this morning with a terrible moral hangover. We have been dominating Italy in all game compartments without been able to score. Zidane was insulted by Materazzi (something about his mother...if you know what I mean !) knowing damn well that Zidane would loose his temper.
I dont care to loose in normal circumtances, which is not the case. Everybody knows how italian can chit and that was the case. Look what's going on in the calcio at the moment ! Thanks to all of you who have been supporting us in this borad ! This is a very sad day !

[Italguido]

Congrats to Italy. Its a shame the game had to come down to penalty kicks.
as for Zidane, i was shocked...

[crazysexycool]

Whatever Materazzi said, Zidane should have give him the finger and walk away,but there are rumors that the italian used the words "dirty terrorist" since Zidane is of Algerian decent... we'll see, Zidane said he will come out with an explanation this week.

Anyway, I hate PK. We should replay the game. More fun and more money for everybody, so why not?

Also, since the 4th referee used the TV replay to catch Zidane, we now have a precedent. PLEASE use TV replays in big tournaments! Italy would have lost to Australia and France...

Finally, I think the way the referees gave 100s of cards during the first week was too much, but was a good idea. I cannot stand when players get injured by those MF defenders and all they get is a foul or a simple yellow card. Henry was down in the first minutes, Viera was injured in the middle of the game, Zidane was kicked the entire game. The Portuguese also played dirty.

The final should have been Brazil-France if the ref used TV replays and everybody would be happy today, even if the French lost. With this result, I say "good job" to the Italians as their newspaper - Il Tempo- said "the importance is to win, not to participate"! At least they admitting their lack of skills.

PS: Did anybody notice that the French guy who missed the pk, Trezeguet, plays for the Italian team Juventus, which is the #1 team implicated in the match fixing scandal? Conspiracy theory anyone?

[Mr.HotStuff]

I agree with this, they must introduce a replay match the next day. :043:

http://www.8erhoekers.nl/zidane.gif

sounds better - but to make it fair - only the people with the tickets for the main game should be allowed back for the next game -- why pay so much for a ticket and find out it is not the final match ticket - that would be a real rip off and it would stop fifa from playing for the replay especially with the money these games generate

[jalen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYUtKKbBTkw&search=Zidane

sorry but forever !!! Zidane i love u man

[Ptit Philou]

I'm not at all fan of violence, but I understand Zidane.......I play every Sunday football on some grounds near where I live, and my friends, every Sunday you're insulted by some jerks......

Some French TV has filmed just a part of what the Italian player said, and even if you're not Italian, you understand clearly the word "puta" on the move of his mouth which means "bitch" in English.....I don't know if you like to hear some stupid guy insulting your mother or your wife, or your sister or your daughter during all the game, but me I don't, so I understand that at the end of a final, you're tired, a jerk always on your neck insulting a member of your family, well me I lose my temper and I make a Zizou front kick !

I'm not violent, but this player has found what he was searching for !

Zizou will always stay a God in France despite everyone is thinking about what he has done !

[bigusdickus]

Congratulations to the Italians.

I was rooting for France because they were playing so well leading into the finals. I hate to seem them lose with such disgrace. Zidane is smarter than that, and he should have never retaliated to the spicey meatball Italian in the way that he did. At least wait for the match to end if you wanna throw them up!

But it's all history now, and Italy is the Champ for another four years. Congrats!

Hopefully, the next cup will showcase the players' ability to wow us as fans and not the referees' ability to spoil a fucking match.

[RAZORMAID]

Whether Zidane was called names or not, he should know that any 'opposition' would taunt you and try to provoke a reaction that can result in being carded. So said, so done. It might be a dirty tactic, but at the end of the match, it worked to France's detriment.

[fartman23]

Whether Zidane was called names or not, he should know that any 'opposition' would taunt you and try to provoke a reaction that can result in being carded. So said, so done. It might be a dirty tactic, but at the end of the match, it worked to France's detriment.
Amen. The only proof needed is that it worked. Surely this can't be the first time someone called Zidane a name? I'd wager it's not the 1000th. You're going to lose your cool in the second overtime of the World Cup Final? Inexcusable. I'm shocked FIFA made him the man of the tournament...naturally, the way he played in all the games leading up to the final, he deserved it, but still, I'm surprised how politically incorrect the selection is....

--FM23

[zebulon]

Thanks a lot for this link about our national Zizou.Very complete. too bad we can't download the videos ! We had Platinio in the past and Zidane who will be the next one ? Maybe Riberi !!

[bigusdickus]

Whether Zidane was called names or not, he should know that any 'opposition' would taunt you and try to provoke a reaction that can result in being carded. So said, so done. It might be a dirty tactic, but at the end of the match, it worked to France's detriment.I agree. Zidane's wise enough to be losing his hair, but adolescent enough to let someone get to him. It's quite a sad combination considering what was at stake. I wonder if he's given insight since then. I'd like to see if it being his last game, period, helped him say 'fuck it'.

[coolcalo2003]

Whats all this talk of Zidane?!?!
What about Cannavaro, and Buffon without these two players would Italy have even made it into the final?
At the end of the day the right team won the match.Italy have had their share of penalty shoot out losses. And only conceeded two goals all tournament(one being an own goal). This says a lot about the side proving they are very tough to beat.

[bigusdickus]

Nobody is disputing that, coolcalo. Italy won it all. I mean after all, they are the champs. An exceptional team won the highest prize in which sports across the globe have to offer. Good on them. :)










Long live Zidane.

[Junkboxy]

As for Zidane: He got played like a violin. What do you think that Italian was trying to do? The biggest disgrace there is a key ballplayer - veteran ballplayer at that - letting his teammates down. Pa-thetic.

Add Zidane: Remember that dive he took in the Spain game? It resulted in a free kick that resulted in the go-ahead goal. :106:

It is the Zidanes of the game that make us all-around sports fans frown on the game of futbol. :031:

Leave the acting to divas and play sport like a ballplayer.

[zebulon]

The purpose of the following doesn't intyend tu excuse what Zizou has done. anyhow I'd like to report to your knowledge what exactly happened between Materazzi and Zidane :This was reported by a deaf-mute italian who can read on lips :

Zidane talk to Materazzi showing the sleeve of his shirt :
quote : Ordinanza de tirare il cosytume !! ( stop to grab my shirt !!)

Materazzi :
quote : Taciti, enculo, hai solamente cio che merite ... ( Shut up fucking guy, you get only what you deserve ...)

Zidane :

quote :Si e cio ... ( yes ... that's it ...!!)

At this time Zidane gets away from Materazzi who's still yealing at him .

Materazzi :
quote : Meritate tutti cio, voi gli enculato di musulmani, sporchi terroristi ; ( you deserve all that, you fucking mushlem and terrorists)

Once again it doesn't excuses Zidane reaction but I doubt that most of you including myself would have been able to keep my self control.

I'd like to have your opinion;

Funny enough Italy and France are in the same group for the Euro 2008 selection games !!

[crazysexycool]

I heard Zidane will give an explanation soon. I hope that you're right Zebulon, and that it was as bad as " you fucking muslim terrorist", because if it was only about his mother or sister, then he must have heard it 10,000 times before!
I hope he comes out with a good reason BUT still apologize for his act. He is a role model for a lot of young people who are now confused.

In any case, fuck Italy, if the Refs were good they should have lost to Australia. The new rule is: if you beat Brazil, you win the cup!

[Ptit Philou]

Just so you know everybody, even if it's some bad words on his mother, his mother is currently in a hospital in the South of France and seems to be very ill as we could read it in the french newspapers today......

So just imagine you're at his place......a jerk insults your mother, and your mother is just at this time in hospital.......please can you really say you can keep your temper cool and only say "fuck it" to this guy........well I tell you, it would have be me, I would have done the same as he did, and without any regret !

[RAZORMAID]

well I tell you, it would have be me, I would have done the same as he did, and without any regret !

I would have played out the remaining ten minutes, scored on my penalty kick, perhaps win the world cup for France...and then grab razzi. Timing is everything. Zidane's timing ruined a lot.

[Ptit Philou]

I would have played out the remaining ten minutes, scored on my penalty kick, perhaps win the world cup for France...and then grab razzi. Timing is everything. Zidane's timing ruined a lot.

You are absolutely right ! But you know, in France, no ones contest the victory of Italy....more than win the World Cup, the French only wanted to celebrate the last match of Zidane just as much as he deserved it......but we all think that this guy Materazzi because of his stupidity ruined everything......

[bigusdickus]

Materazzi is a dipshit. He denies calling Zidane a 'terrorist' because claims that he is "not cultured enough to even know what the word 'terrorist' means. So why would he call Zidane something that he doesn't understand?"

Can you believe this bullshit?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,28783-2263995,00.html

[crazysexycool]

Thanks for article, but "Dipshit" is too nice for Materazzi. He is an insult to Sport, check this video of his "skills":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJPKM5aJGW8

Italy should be baned from the next World Cup!

[D'Artagnan]

Ok let me comment on the Headbunt situation.

Zidane should have never caved. I remember playing Soccer as a kid, and when I went up against a tall guy I'd call him the green giant or something.

Many other verbal things to, and physcial cheap shots. And that was as a kid!

Now when I play soccer its common place, with every sport possible, you verbally taunt your opponent. Its common practice. It's to drive each other.

I don't see how people can cave under name calling. If you can cave under name calling you shouldnt be playing sports.

Some of the things people say is actually funny. Even if it's directed at yourself, laugh it off. Or just don't react.

The best thing you can do when playing a sport and you get taunted, is keep cool and go put in a goal. Especially in overtime for the World Cup.

If I was him, my last resort would be jog ahead, then turn and try to kill the guy.

I don't hate Zidane for it, I just think he acted wrong at the time.

[fartman23]

Amen, D'Artagnan....



--FM23

[DD313]

Zidane the game - ty to knock down as many Matarazzis as you can...

http://zeljo.com/blog/zidane-the-game/

Italy may celebrate, but I hope in a few days they start crying for weeks, months, years. Cause Juve will be banished to third italian league an AC Milan, Lazio and Fiorentina will be despatched to Italy's second. If there's any justice left in Italy...

[zebulon]

Materazzi is a dipshit. He denies calling Zidane a 'terrorist' because claims that he is "not cultured enough to even know what the word 'terrorist' means. So why would he call Zidane something that he doesn't understand?"

Can you believe this bullshit?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,28783-2263995,00.html

Materazzi is still bullshitting ! What he says about his so call ignorance of the word terrorist is simply an insult to our intelligence !

[fartman23]

Materazzi is still bullshitting ! What he says about his so call ignorance of the word terrorist is simply an insult to our intelligence !
Yes, but the point is it doesn't matter *what* you say. When the umpire said "motherfucker" to Robbie Alomar and Alomar spit on him, was that okay? Of course not. You'd rather players didn't resort to bad words to try and distract a great player, but they're still just words. And Zidane is an asshole for having possibly cost his nation the Cup because he was distracted by words.

--FM23

[crazysexycool]

Zidane is coming out today, so we''ll see.

Just another perspective: Italy and Spain have a huge racism problem, and specifically in soccer, African players do get "booed" whenever they touch the ball. BUT these countries do not acknowledge they are racists, or do anything about it.
So perhaps Zidane, on the biggest stage of all Sports, wanted to make the point that racism is NEVER acceptable.

[D'Artagnan]

So perhaps Zidane, on the biggest stage of all Sports, wanted to make the point that racism is NEVER acceptable.

Racism is never acceptable, but head bunting someone in the sternum is ok.

I think if it was racism or anything, he should have ran and picked up the ball during play.

But if I was Zidane, I would have probably punched Marco in the face.

[crazysexycool]

Just saw his interview on the web.
He did not say exactly what the Italian guy said, except that it was in reference to his mother and his sister, and that it was very serious but he did not say that the "translation" done by the English papers about "son of a terrorist whore" were false. He apologize to the kids who saw it, and said that it was unacceptable, but did not regret it because he wasn't the cause of it. By the way, his mother is sick in the hospital... Italians have a great research team.

[D'Artagnan]

Italians have a great research team.

Ha, yea that's weird. That guy sent out his special agents before the match, dig me up some dirt on Zidane, then I will have some material to use.

[diodo2004]

France loss Zidane, Henry, Vieira, ... too much handicap

[emperormx]

Too bad goodbye for Zidane

[crazysexycool]

France loss Zidane, Henry, Vieira, ... too much handicap
Great points! Because the Italians played dirty and injured them. Henry was down in the first minutes, Viera had to stop in the 2nd half and Zidane shoulder was hurt.
Fucking FIFA must do something about those cheats!

[bigusdickus]

Yes, but the point is it doesn't matter *what* you say. When the umpire said "motherfucker" to Robbie Alomar and Alomar spit on him, was that okay? Of course not. You'd rather players didn't resort to bad words to try and distract a great player, but they're still just words. And Zidane is an asshole for having possibly cost his nation the Cup because he was distracted by words.

--FM23It doesn't matter if you're a robot.

The point is that there is always something that can be said to push you left. Zidane is more than just a distant figure that you see on the television; he lives a real life that certainly has real issues. The man is only human, and that sorry excuse of a footballer said the right things to piss him the fuck off. There's trash talk, and then there is unacceptable insults. Materazi got what he deserved by Zidane knocking his ass down. It's unfortunate that he lost his cool, but to say that "words are just words" oversimplifies the situation.

If someone insulted your family--and I mean instulted them in a way that hit close to your heart--that you would not retaliate and defend their honor?

[Remnant]

If someone insulted your family--and I mean instulted them in a way that hit close to your heart--that you would not retaliate and defend their honor?

Not physically, no. Others' words are worthless. Especially in that situation, when the intent was obviously to draw a foul. Escalation toward violence is a bad response in most situations in life, anyway--only gets you thrown out of games, thrown into jail, kicked out of marriages, etc.

Besides, the tougher thing is to master your immediate emotions and cooly decide what action is appropriate--in this case, beating your opponent at football or at worst meeting him after the match for a throw. Zidane was physically and emotionally wiped out by the series of games and the overtime, and gave in to the animalistic urge. Weak. And stupid.

Of course, easy to say; tough to do in the heat of battle.

[D'Artagnan]

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[Junkboxy]

Soccer has some of those sly-as-a-fox types who fall to the ground -- sometimes moaning in agony :020: -- in attempt to get the referee to call a penalty on the other guy. I've heard it called "taking a dive." :ohmy:

"Taking a dive" is not beneath 'Zizou'. :015:. Ask Spain.
(^^^^ establishes Zizou as a head-gamer ^^^^)

Now,
:104: You people who are trying to justify Zidane's reaction to another's words don't know sport.
Others' words are worthless.
Exactly Remnant. Why should "Zizou" care about what opposing futbol player Marco Materazzi thinks.

Sly-as-a-fox Zidane got out-foxed -- that is what happened. A veteran head-gamer got head-gamed. Materazzi dangled the bait, dangled it some more, and Zidane bit. Consequently left his team without its best foot in the PKs.

So the sly diver gets duped by an opponent, and playing the pity card is all that's left. If I was his teammate, I would be angry :014: about him letting me down, not sympathizing with him because the opponent hurt his feelings :ghey: .

FIFA Soccer is a pussy-ass sport and its players like Zidane that exemplify its pussy-assedness. :rimshot:

[bigusdickus]

Junkyboxy, ***. Any athlete can testify that they've lost their cool during a match at one point or another in some form or fashion. If you haven't, then you don't know how to play with heart.

By the way, I dare you to tell 6 billion people that football--excuse me, soccer--is a pussy-ass sport. You actually exemplify the typical American who knows jack shit about real football.

[Swann]

Discuss this all you like.
- However -
nix the personal attacks.
SG?1 will not tolerate abusive behavior from it's members.

[bigusdickus]

Ok I'll stop. :(

[Junkboxy]

:068: I was careful to say FIFA soccer.

Soccer/futbol as played by kids and amateurs everywhere = all good. This internationally sanctioned brand that we "typical Americans" see on display every four years in the World Cup sucks. Every damn time we see strikers flopping to the ground and doing the crybaby act any time they come close to the goal area. That isn't sport.

ADD: I saw Zidane take a dive, and I don't feel a bit sorry for him because some other player broke off another less-savory aspect of the game on him. Divers and shit-talkers, . . they are all in the same boat IMHO.

[Swann]

Ok I'll stop. :(Thank you ....
now, back to:
Let's Talk Football
with your co-host
bigusdickus

:D

[Junkboxy]

Junkboxy's Free Advice To FIFA
Another referee or two. One guy patrolling the pitch, with the other officials restricted to the sidelines, isn't enough.

Eliminate offsides.

Yellow card for anybody who takes a dive.

I'll stop too. :D

[D'Artagnan]

I know I looked at taking a Dive as a wimpy move. But then I played soccer for 12 years and realized its a fantastic tactic.

Its like in Hockey when they pretend to get high sticked or hooked.

Its a great penalty draw and works ALOT of the time.

But I think they should give out a warning, then a yellow card if the same player does it twice in 1 game. A really fake Dive that is. The good actors, give them rewards :p(Kidding)

Anyways thanks for cooling down the topic, I was getting worried. I thought I might have to head bunt both of you two.

[supraman_2]

Anyways thanks for cooling down the topic, I was getting worried. I thought I might have to head bunt both of you two.
:lol: That would have been interesting.
Zidane shouldn't have been so stupid, no matter what Materazzi said. I don't think anyone has claimed Materazzi was a very clean player, but neither is Zidane. Zidane should not have been named MVP Cannavaro should have gotten it. Shit talking is all part of the game, you let it get to you and you're done.
I do agree too many players dive nowadays and it cheapens the games.
Congrats to Italy you all look at Marco and say Italy didn't deserve it but forget how great Buffon was, Cannavaro and the back line, Pirlo and Gattuso all over the midfield. They played well and they deserved to win.

[zebulon]

Junkyboxy, ***. Any athlete can testify that they've lost their cool during a match at one point or another in some form or fashion. If you haven't, then you don't know how to play with heart.

By the way, I dare you to tell 6 billion people that football--excuse me, soccer--is a pussy-ass sport. You actually exemplify the typical American who knows jack shit about real football.


That's exactly what I would have replied. The soccer education of the North Americans is not good enough to allow them to give lessons to the rest of the world ( and I talk only about soccer !!!)

[Swann]

That's exactly what I would have replied. The soccer education of the North Americans is not good enough to allow them to give lessons to the rest of the world ( and I talk only about soccer !!!):D So, how many innings did you say there were in a soccer game ? :D

[crazysexycool]

I never heard of Zidane taking a dive... In any case, he wasn't famous as a cheat. Materazzi on the other hand...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5142970568688502787
Italy should be banned for letting such a disgrace play in their team. Is this really one of the best defender in italy? I guess if injuring the other team's strikers is part of your criterias.
Now He scored the equalizer for Italy which ultimately gave them the cup... So for that reason, you can say he should have been in the team. How ironic!

[supraman_2]

If you notice most of those clips are from the derby and are shown a few times from different angles. I'm not saying he's clean but replaying the same hits over and over isn't amounting to much.
This isn't the first time Zidane has headbutted someone. Remember him stomping the Saudi defender?? Oh yea, he's not a clean player either. :103:

[Ptit Philou]

If you notice most of those clips are from the derby and are shown a few times from different angles. I'm not saying he's clean but replaying the same hits over and over isn't amounting to much.
This isn't the first time Zidane has headbutted someone. Remember him stomping the Saudi defender?? Oh yea, he's not a clean player either. :103:

You are absolutely right Supraman, Zidane's is not a saint, it's not the first time he reacts this way.................but this time, and as he said yesterday evening on TV, the one who is to be blame, is it the one who reacts and defends the honor of his family, or the one who is provoking you saying that your mother and your sister are bitches ???????
For me the answer is obvious........

[D'Artagnan]

Italy should be banned for letting such a disgrace play in their team.

I don't know about the entire Italian team, maybe just Marco. Since he is pretty dirty. I mean I'm Italian, so I support the soccer club, but I don't support brutes. He's kind of a dink and got what was coming to him, it's just to bad he got what he deserved by Zidane, which then caused Zidane to be ejected.

He should have just watched in the Parking Lot and tossed the World Cup at him or something.

[bigusdickus]

That's exactly what I would have replied. The soccer education of the North Americans is not good enough to allow them to give lessons to the rest of the world ( and I talk only about soccer !!!)I think it's very unfortunate that football isn't more popular in the States than compared to how it is with the rest of the world. It seems that most Americans played it when they were kids, coached by some other kid's dad who's never heard of the sport until a PTA meeting the previous week. The kids lose interest and quit, which becomes their main experience with the sport on a personal level. If that's mostly true, then it's no wonder why other American sports are so popular. There simply isn't a substantial chain of knowledge being passed down through the generations as compared to Europe for example.

I was listening to the radio following the finals, and the local personalities were just ripping the sport. Their theory was that it did not have the payoff as does baseball with every pitch or basketball with every possession. My theory in response to their's is just plain ignorance.

[Junkboxy]

The kids lose interest and quit
I played soccer when I was about 10 or 11. Then I got tall and basketball became my sport. Some other kid got heavy-set and football became his sport. Some other kid with good hand-eye concentrated on baseball. American kids just find those sports more appealing. Most sports are fun to play, but some are much better spectator sports. In USA, football and basketball are/were the favorite spectator sports. (I hedge that with a "were" because the NBA has gone down the tubes ever since ABC took it over IMHO).

Kids want to play what they can watch. And the audience believes that football and basketball are more fun to watch than soccer, so that's what gets the airplay. Its a feedback loop. One sportswriter observed that you don't see any 200+ pound American athletes playing soccer like you can find in other countries. That's because the big guys in the USA are playing football or baseball. Soccer in the USA is really more about parents keeping their kids involved and exercised.

[bigusdickus]

Physical attributes do not determine which sport a kid wants to play (e.g. the Czech's forward, Koller). It really boils down to person's social conditioning--how a person was programmed, by whom, and so on. Think about that.

[crazysexycool]

I was listening to the radio following the finals, and the local personalities were just ripping the sport. Their theory was that it did not have the payoff as does baseball with every pitch or basketball with every possession. My theory in response to their's is just plain ignorance.

Well said. I'm so upset when people here (the US) critize soccer as being boring. It is for me the most intense sport to watch. Every pass or drible is beautiful to watch. And sometimes a "genious" like Ronaldinho or Zidane does something amazing that just put a smile on your face.
And............ no fucking break for advertizing every 5 mn. Dudes, I cannot watch Baseball, so fucking slow. Football is great but I always tune in the 3rd quarter, as i don't have 5 hours to spare for a freaking game.

45 intense minutes, 2 beers at half time, and another 45mn, that's it! I love it!

Oh yeah, and no 7 games to win like in Baseball or Basketball playoffs. Can I watch Sport and have a life, please?

[zebulon]

I lived in the U.S. for quite a while and when I was there I have been told that soccer would be successful if intead of 2 half times there would be 4 quaters . You know why ?. for commercials on tv in order to make money and I believe it. If professional soccer games would be on TV there won't be no more problem and I believe it. On the other hand american crowd loves huge scoring like in basket ball , football and base ball which isn't the case in soccer?

[Swann]

...... On the other hand american crowd loves huge scoring like in basket ball , football and base ball which isn't the case in soccer?Easy fix, make the goals worth more points, as in American football scoring.

[supraman_2]

You are absolutely right Supraman, Zidane's is not a saint, it's not the first time he reacts this way.................but this time, and as he said yesterday evening on TV, the one who is to be blame, is it the one who reacts and defends the honor of his family, or the one who is provoking you saying that your mother and your sister are bitches ???????
For me the answer is obvious........
I would have won the cup then talked shit to him afterwards.
Much better way to take care of it.

[Dark Genesis]

Only thing i have to say is to this topic is that Trezguet is probably on a holiday on his own island which the mafia probably gave him after missing the penalty for france.

[zebulon]

Only thing i have to say is to this topic is that Trezguet is probably on a holiday on his own island which the mafia probably gave him after missing the penalty for france.


That's real bullshit !! Are you proud of what you wrote ?

[Ptit Philou]

I would have won the cup then talked shit to him afterwards.
Much better way to take care of it.

The problem is Supraman that even if Zidane have stayed on the playground (imagine he has not reacted), no one can say if we would have won or not...and we will never know it, because you can't re-write history.

[zebulon]

The problem is Supraman that even if Zidane have stayed on the playground (imagine he has not reacted), no one can say if we would have won or not...and we will never know it, because you can't re-write history.


Laisses tomber...ils ne pigent rien de toute fa?on !!

Don't insist ...they don't understand a damn thing about it !!

[zebulon]

For those who understand french here attached is the video of Zidane on french TV explaining what happened. Pay attention to the end of the interview.

http://msn.eurosport.fr/football/mc_vid28021.shtml

[DD313]

Only thing i have to say is to this topic is that Trezguet is probably on a holiday on his own island which the mafia probably gave him after missing the penalty for france.

If it's so, then why did Trezeguet scored on the Euro 2000 Final and kicked Italy out in the last 10 minutes of overtime?

[supraman_2]

The problem is Supraman that even if Zidane have stayed on the playground (imagine he has not reacted), no one can say if we would have won or not...and we will never know it, because you can't re-write history.
I'm just saying that's what I would have done or taken him out and got a yellow card. :lol:

[emperormx]

Zidane deserves revenge!!!

[saga1979]

France Is The Best And Zizou Is A Master